Chapter 32 (i think)

BYOB: This poem neatly falls into two parts, the first describing what Fabullus will NOT receive at this dinner, and what therefore he must bring and why; the second describing what he will receive, and why. Comment on Catullus' use of cenabis/cena and nam as structural markers, and on how effectively the poet produces a surprise ending at the close of each of the poem's halves.

Catullus uses "Cenabis bene to open the first part and close it, leading into the new part. This repetition shows change. He uses nam first at the beginning of the first surprise ending and then uses it again to begin the phrase before the second surprise ending. This word is used as a structural marker to show the part coming to an end. Also, it is used as a way to finish his thought and explain himself. The surprise endings are "for Catullus' wallet is full of spider-webs" and "You will ask the gods to make you entirely a nose, Fabullus"

Aristotle...: An Philippus, rex Macedonum, voluisset Alexandro, filio duo, primo elementa litterarum tradi ab Aristotele summo eius aetatis philosopho, aut hic suscepisset illud maximum officium, nisi intium studiorum pertinere ad summam sapientissime credidisset?

Could it be that Phillip, King of the Macedonians, would have wished that the first elements of literature is passed on to his own son Alexander by Aristotle, the highest philosopher of his time, or would this man have undergone this greatest duty if he had not believed most wisely that the beginning of most studies pertain to the highest?

Quintilian (Marcus Fabius Quintilianus)

He is best known for his 12-volume work on oratory and education , the Institutiones Oratotiae

BYOB: Meter

hendecasyllabic:composed of verses of 11 syllables

BYOB: What is the deeper meaning?

it isn't actually about food- Fabius actually wants the company. Faius lists four lists to bring, and only one is food, which proves this and he also says pure love is the reward.

Anaphora

repeated structure

Semper pauper eris, si pauper es, Aemilliane: dantur opes nulli nune nisi divitibus

you will always be poor, if you are poor Aemillianus: Riches are given to none now except to the wealthy

Anaphora in "The Rich gets Richer"

"pauper eris" and "pauper es": puts emphasis on the word poor, relating it back to the main message of this epigram

BYOB: Sed contra accipies meros amores, seu quid suavius elegantiusve est: nam unguentum dabo, quod meae puellae donarunt Veneres Cupidinesque; quod tu cum olfacies, deos rogabis totum ut te faciant, Fabulle, nasum.

But in return you will receive pure love, or what is sweeter or more elegant: for I shall give perfume, which Venuses and Cupids gave to my girlfriend; when you will smell this, you will ask the gods to make you entirely a nose, Fabullus.

BYOB: What other thematic connection do you see between the two sections?

divine influence (talks about the gods in both parts)????

Meter of "The Rich gets Richer" and definition of it

elegiac couplet: dactylic hexameter then pentameter verse

Your Loss, My Gain": Context

Another example of Roman wit from Cicero's treatise "On Old Age./ During the second Punic War, the inhabitant of Tarentum, in southeastern Italy, revolted from the Roman to Hannibal, through the Romans under Marcus Livius Salinator managed to hold the ciadel. In 209 BC the city was recaptured by Quintus Fabius Maximus.

For "Aristotle, Tutor of Alexander the Great", explain in your own words the view Quintilian expresses here regarding teachers and the education of the young. Did Philip and Aristotle agree? Do you?

I think Quintilian just believes children should be educated from a young age and should have the best teacher possible if they want to be good. Phillip and Aristotle agree. Basically he is saying the pupil I only as god as his teacher

State the historical context of "Aristotle, Tutor of Alexander the Great"

Philip hired Aristotle to tutor Alexander when the boy was 13

Alliteration in the "The Rich get Richer"

Repetition of "n" in second line draws attention to the present tense of "now" and the negative tone (not, except); Repetition of "p" with pauper in first line emphasizes that word

Your Loss, My Gain: Explain the Salinator's hubris, and Fabius' wit

Salinator thinks that because he was able to keep the citadel from being conquered, that he contributed to Fabius' reconquering of the city. Fabiu's wit is shown when he counter Salinator saying that he did contribute but only in a negative way bc if he hadn't lsot the city, then Fabius could have never reconquered it. In essence, Sainator thinks he contributed when all he did was lose the city and then try to praise himself for Fabiu's victory.

Word Order in the "The Rich get Richer"

The placement of the verb in the second line is unique. Not really sure what it means/its purpose so lmk.

BYOB: How does the word order in the last line support the point?

The wide separation of the adjective and noun suggest the cartoon-like enormity of the imagined nose

BYOB: Give context

This dinner invitation, one of Catullus' most popular poems, was HIGHLY conditional, but if Fabullus accepts, he is in for an unusual treat

Your Loss, My Gain!: Cum Quintus Fabius Maximus magno consilio Tarentum fortissimo recepisset et Salinator (qui in arce fuerat, urbe amissa) dixisset, "Mea opera, Quinte Fabi Tarentum recepisti, "Fabius, me audiente, "Certe," inquit ridens, "nam nisi tu urbem amisisses numquam eam recepissem"

When Quintus fabius Maximus had most bravely recaptured Tarentum with a great plan and the Salinator had said (who had been in the citadel, with the city having been lost), "By my work, Quintus Fabius, you have recaptured Tarentum", Fabius, with me listening, said laughing, "Surely, for if you had not lost the city, I never would have recaptured it"

BYOB: Cenabis bene, mi Fabulle, apud me paucis (si tibi di favent) diebus- si tecum attuleris bonam atque magnam cenam, non sine candida puella et vino et sale et omnibus cahinnis;haec si, inquam, attuleris, venuste noster, cenabis bene; nam tui Catulli plenus sacculus est aranearum.

You will dine well, my Fabullus, at my house in a few days (if the gods favor you)- if you have brought with yourself a good and large dinner, not without a beautiful girl and wine and salt and all the laughs; if you have brought these things, my charming fellow you will dine well; for Catullus' wallet is full of spider webs.

BYON: What is syncope and give an example of it from the passage.

a contraction within a word through the loss of a vowel sound or letter. In this case, the ve disappears in when "donaverunt" becomes "donarunt"